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John Collins

John Collins[1]

Male 1898 - 1957  (59 years)

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  • Name John Collins  [2
    Born 7 Jan 1898  Clonakilty, Co Cork, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location  [3, 4, 5, 6
    Address:
    17 Chapel Lane, Clonakilty, Co Cork, Ireland 
    • John's date of birth on his 1916 Royal Navy enlistment and servce records (IWM.org.uk) is 26 Dec 1897. John's father registered date of birth as 7 Jan 1898.
      John's family were from Rosscarbery and Clonakilty, Co Cork, Ireland. John's age is 3 in the 1901 census.
    Gender Male 
    Residence Apr 1901  Clonakilty, Co Cork, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
    Address:
    17 Chapel Lane, Clonakilty, Co Cork, Ireland 
    Occupation 1915  [7
    Miner 
    • John's RN enlistment Jan1916 shows occupation as "mine labourer".
    Occupation 6 Jan 1916  Cobh, Co Cork, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 7
    Royal Navy 
    • John Collins joined the Royal Navy in Cobh, Co Cork in 1916. John served in the Royal Navy in WWI and rejoined during WWII - Patsy Grey (Collins).
    Occupation 6 Jan 1916  Cobh, Co Cork, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location  [7
    Stoker II, Royal Navy 
    • John enlisted Royal Navy in Cobh, Co Cork (information from Patsy Collins/Grey). His RN service record shows he was previously a mine labourer.
    Occupation 20 Jul 1916  HMS Dublin (Light Cruiser) Find all individuals with events at this location  [7
    Stoker I, Royal Navy 
    • On 20 Jul 1916 promoted from Stoker II to Stoker I (1st class)-this is two months after the battle of Jutland, where 3 were killed and a futher 24 of his ship-mates were wounded.
      On 5 Jan 1919 received GB (Good Conduct Badge)-a v shape stripe worn on the left arm (similar to a lance-corporal stripe). Usually worn only on best dress uniform; a maximum of three GB stripes can be worn.
    Occupation 1 May 1919  HMS Dublin (Light Cruiser) Find all individuals with events at this location  [7
    Leading Stoker, Royal Navy 
    • On 1 May 1919 promoted from AB (Able Seaman) StokerI to Leading Stoker (a team leader).
    Buried Jul 1957  Manchester, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Address:
    St Joseph's Cemetery, Moston Lane, Manchester, England 
    Died 21 Jul 1957  Manchester, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Address:
    Moston, Manchester, England 
    • Date of death is from Patsy Collins, daughter of John.
    Person ID I316  Hannaway
    Last Modified 29 Mar 2019 

    Father Patrick Collins,   b. Abt Mar 1872, County Cork, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Mother Anne Donoghue,   b. 12 Jun 1871, County Cork, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married 20 Jul 1895  Clonakilty, Co Cork, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location  [8
    • RC parish records Clonakilty, Co Cork. July 20 1895 marriage: Patrick Collins & Annie Donoghue (see copy of Registrar/chapel entry).
    Family ID F117  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Maggie-Anne Kelly,   b. 17 Aug 1904, Clarkill, Lislea, Co Armagh Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married 1938  [2
    Children 
     1. Patsy Collins
     2. Sean Collins,   d. 2016
     3. Francie Collins
    Last Modified 15 Feb 2017 
    Family ID F116  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - Address:
    17 Chapel Lane, Clonakilty, Co Cork, Ireland - 7 Jan 1898 - Clonakilty, Co Cork, Ireland
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    Link to Google MapsResidence - Address:
    17 Chapel Lane, Clonakilty, Co Cork, Ireland - Apr 1901 - Clonakilty, Co Cork, Ireland
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    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Royal Navy - 6 Jan 1916 - Cobh, Co Cork, Ireland Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Stoker II, Royal Navy - 6 Jan 1916 - Cobh, Co Cork, Ireland Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Stoker I, Royal Navy - 20 Jul 1916 - HMS Dublin (Light Cruiser) Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Leading Stoker, Royal Navy - 1 May 1919 - HMS Dublin (Light Cruiser) Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBuried - Address:
    St Joseph's Cemetery, Moston Lane, Manchester, England - Jul 1957 - Manchester, England
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    Link to Google MapsDied - Address:
    Moston, Manchester, England - 21 Jul 1957 - Manchester, England
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  • Photos
    1945 Hannaway wedd group_Lev'more_websize
    1945 Hannaway wedd group_Lev'more_websize
    Picture Note: June 1945 double wedding: Mary Hannaway to John Doherty and Peter Hannaway to Sarah Byrnes. Family guests in front of the Hannaway house, Levelamore, County Armagh.
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    Collins, John 1898 birth,Clonakilty
    Collins, John 1898 birth,Clonakilty
    Picture Note: John Collins 1898 birth Clonakilty. John's is one of 2 entries registering more than 4 months after the date birth date with Statutory Declaration recorded in the margin.
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    Collins, John 1901 census_Clonakilty, Co Cork
    Collins, John 1901 census_Clonakilty, Co Cork
    Picture Note: Patrick Collins & family 1901 census: No 17 Old Chapel Lane, Clonakilty, County Cork. John is 3 years old.
    Keywords: Picture
    Collins, John 1901 census_Clonakilty, Co Cork_HseBldg
    Collins, John 1901 census_Clonakilty, Co Cork_HseBldg
    Picture Note: Patrick Collins household 1901 census, the Hse & Bldg Return page - No17 Old Chapel Lane, Clonakilty, Co Cork
    Keywords: Picture
    Collins, John 1911 census_Clonakilty, Co Cork
    Collins, John 1911 census_Clonakilty, Co Cork
    Picture Note: Patrick Collins & family 1911 census. Living at No 17 Old Chapel Lane, Clonakilty, Co Cork. Same address as the 1901 census and five children have since been born. For the first time the census of 1911 showed the number of children born and those still living. All of Anne's 9 children were living; in earlier years this survival success was uncommon.
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    Collins, John, (b1897)_RoyalNavy1916-1920
    Collins, John, (b1897)_RoyalNavy1916-1920
    Picture Note: John Collins (b1897). Royal Navy1916-1920 enlistment record. John enlisted in Cobh, Cork, Ireland. (Vivid II was a shore base for accounting purposes-RN Devonport, Plymouth, Devon). He enlisted for 12 years (see "Date & Period Engagement" it is 5+7 yrs). John was aboard HMS Dublin at the Battle of Jutland in May 1916.
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    Collins, John, (b1897)_RoyalNavy1920-1927
    Collins, John, (b1897)_RoyalNavy1920-1927
    Picture Note: John Collins (b1897) Royal Navy1920-1927 service record. Enlisted in 1916 for 12 years: "5+7 yrs". 5yrs S/S (Special Service) are complete, 7 yrs CS (Continuous Service) commences 31Dec1920 with a new service No: K59398.
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    Collins, John, (b1897)_RoyalNavy1931-45 ServBk
    Collins, John, (b1897)_RoyalNavy1931-45 ServBk
    Picture Note: John Collins (b1897) - Royal Navy Service-Book entries (zoom in for details). The 1942-1945 ship movement records were restricted during war-time (more details are on the next media of John's typed service record). The final hand-written entry is on 25 Oct 1945: "PUNS" - Physically Unfit for Naval Serviice. John Collins is almost 48 years of age and has served in the Royal Navy from 1916 to 1945 -through two World Wars. Enlistment terms were of 12 and of 13 years: 25 years in total. Records are copyright: http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=john%20collins&_p=1925&_rv=simple.
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    Collins, John, (b1897)_RoyalNavy1931-45 ServTyped
    Collins, John, (b1897)_RoyalNavy1931-45 ServTyped
    Picture Note: John Collins (b1897) - Royal Navy Service-typed entries (zoom in for details). Bottom of page 1: Oct 1945 John is "invalided to shore". John Collins is almost 48 years of age and has served in the Royal Navy from 1916 to 1945-through two World Wars. Enlistment terms were of 12 and of 13 years plus WWII: 29 years 7 months in total. Records are copyright: http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=john%20collins&_p=1925&_rv=simple.
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    HMS Dublin_JohnCollins(b1897)
    HMS Dublin_JohnCollins(b1897)
    Picture Note: HMS Dublin, John Collins joined the light cruiser as a Stoker 2nd Class in March 1916-after completing recruit training. Within 3 months he saw action at the battle of Jutland.
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    Collins,John (b1897) RNRec 1of2
    Collins,John (b1897) RNRec 1of2
    Picture Note: John Collins (b1897) - Royal Navy Service-Book entries, page 1 of 2 (zoom in for details). The 1942-1945 ship movement records were restricted during war-time (more details are on the media file "RoyalNavy1931-45 ServTyped"). The final hand-written entry is on 29 Aug 1945: "PUNS" - Physically Unfit for Naval Service. John Collins is almost 48 years of age and has served in the Royal Navy from 1916 to 1945 -through two World Wars. Enlistment terms were of 12 years, 13 years then 4 years Sp Service in WWII: in total 29 years 7 months naval service. Records are copyright: http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=john%20collins&_p=1925&_rv=simple.
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    Collins,John (b1897) RNRec 2of2
    Collins,John (b1897) RNRec 2of2
    Picture Note: John Collins (b1897) - Royal Navy Service-Book entries, page 2 of2 (zoom in for details). The 1942-1945 ship movement records were restricted during war-time (more details are on the media file "RoyalNavy1931-45 ServTyped"). The final hand-written entry is on 29 Aug 1945: "PUNS" - Physically Unfit for Naval Service. John Collins is almost 48 years of age and has served in the Royal Navy from 1916 to 1945 -through two World Wars. Enlistment terms were of 12 years, 13 years then 4 years Sp Service in WWII: in total 29 years 7 months naval service. Records are copyright: http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=john%20collins&_p=1925&_rv=simple.
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    1936c Patsy Collins family group-names
    1936c Patsy Collins family group-names
    Picture Note: 1936c - Another of Patsy Collins' family photos. Patsy's mother Maggie-Anne Kelly is front right and behind is her husband John Collins - a brother of Annie Collins (front left). Rear left is Michael Kelly - brother of Maggie-Anne Kelly with his wife Annie Collins- a sister of John Collins. (Married a sibling of your spouse).
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    1945 Hannaway wedd group_Lev'more_websize
    1945 Hannaway wedd group_Lev'more_websize
    Picture Note: June 1945 double wedding: Mary Hannaway to John Doherty and Peter Hannaway to Sarah Byrnes. Family guests in front of the Hannaway house, Levelamore, County Armagh.
    Keywords: Picture

  • Notes 
    • John enlisted in the Royal Navy in Cobh, county Cork on 6 Jan 1916 serving amost continuously until Aug 1945. (Pensioned in Jan 1938 and recalled to service in Aug 1939). He served through both WWI and WWII - in total about 28 years.
      John Collins' WW1 Royal Navy service included the Battle of Jutland aboard the cruiser HMS Dublin. Three crew members were killed and 27 wounded when Dublin received five 5.9 shell inch hits from the cruiser SMS Elbing and eight 4.1-inch shell hits from the Stuttgart.
      John has a page you can visit on the website of the Imperial War Museum at: https://livesofthefirstworldwar.org/lifestory/6512820


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  • Sources 
    1. [S40] Patsy Collins (Grey), Levelamore (Reliability: 3).

    2. [S40] Patsy Collins (Grey), Levelamore (Reliability: 2).

    3. [S76] irishgenealogy.ie, Department of Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs . (Reliability: 3).
      SR District/Reg Area
      Clonakilty. Group Registration ID
      11336040 .

    4. [S75] IWM-Imperial War Museum (Reliability: 2).
      John's record on IWM.org.uk shows copy of enlistment into the Royal Navy in 1916 with birth date.

    5. [S67] Ancestry.com. UK Family website, John's record on Ancestry.co.uk shows copy of enlistment into the Royal Navy in 1916 with birth date. (Reliability: 3).

    6. [S3] 1901 Census - Ireland (Reliability: 3).

    7. [S75] IWM-Imperial War Museum (Reliability: 3).
      See copy of RN service in Media.

    8. [S36] Parish Records Ireland, RC parish records Clonakilty, Co Cork. July 20 1895 marriage Patrick Collins & Annie Donoghue (see copy of Registrar/chapel entry). (Reliability: 3).

    9. [S40] Patsy Collins (Grey), Levelamore.